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- Info-Hams Digest Fri, 22 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 826
-
- Today's Topics:
- (none)
- Backlog clearing at FCC?
- Can you identify this call sign? - 'NMN'
- Clubs in Phila. area?
- CW on CB
- Did someone say . . . bolus ? (2 msgs)
- Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
- Elmers, please read (Re: CW)
- HELP
- License in 7 Weeks!
- Nikola Tesla - the true father of Radio
- No code tech./CB/not shedding a tear
- RADIO BLOOD - EMPLOYMENT
- ts690 expanded rf?
-
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- Date: 22 Jul 94 12:16:57 GMT
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-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:38:57 GMT
- From: mozo.cc.purdue.edu!rain!mconner@purdue.edu
- Subject: Backlog clearing at FCC?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I was really suprised today to find my new license in my mailbox!
- After hearing 13 weeks +, I figured I had another month to go and
- hadn't seriously started looking around for a 2m/440 rig yet (wouldn't
- have mattered, too busy lately anyway).
-
- Anyway, here's the details:
-
- Test taken: 14 May
- License printed:15 Jul
- Postmarked: 18 Jul
- Received: 21 Jul (total *9* weeks, 5 days)
-
- --
- Mark D. Conner - N9XTN Opinions expressed here are
- Dept. of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences not necessarily those of the
- Purdue Univ., W. Lafayette IN 47907 Government, DoD, Purdue, or
- mconner@rain.atms.purdue.edu the author.
-
-
-
- --
- Mark D. Conner Opinions expressed here are
- Dept. of Earth & Atmospheric Sciences not necessarily those of the
- Purdue Univ., W. Lafayette IN 47907 Government, DoD, Purdue, or
- mconner@rain.atms.purdue.edu the author.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jul 1994 16:09:58 -0600
- From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx10.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Can you identify this call sign? - 'NMN'
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- For more interesting air traffic, check out:
-
- 13.282 MHz USB National Aviation Weather
- 13.354 USB Honululu Air Traffic Control - Long Range
- 13.270 Eastern U.S., New York Air Traffic Control
-
-
- --
- Bill Hester, Ham Radio N0LAJ, Denver CO., USA - N0LAJ@W0LJF.#NECO.CO.USA.NOAM
- Please route replies to: whester@nyx.cs.du.edu or uunet!nyx!whester
- Public Access Unix @ University of Denver, Denver Colorado USA
- (no official affiliation with the above university)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jul 1994 21:10:33 GMT
- From: usc!howland.reston.ans.net!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!godot.cc.duq.edu!newsfeed.pitt.edu!dsinc!netnews.upenn.edu!news.drexel.edu!dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu!DUVM.OCS.@@ihnp4.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Clubs in Phila. area?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- morris@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Ted Morris) writes:
- >Distribution: usa
- >Message-ID: <30guef$l9m@ucunix.san.uc.edu>
- >It appears I'm moving to Philadelphia for a year for graduate
- >coursework. Can someone give me some contact people for local clubs and
- >traffic nets (HF SSB or VHF/UHF FM)? Names and phone numbers would be
- >great but calls alone are okay.
- >Anyone know of -cheap- housing in the Drexel/Penn area for a 42-year-old
- >PhD student? (Okay, quit laughing...).
- >Theodore Allan (Ted) Morris, University of Cincinnati Medical Center,
- >513-558-0177V, -2682F, MORRIS@UCUNIX.SAN.UC.EDU, MORRISTA@UC.EDU, WB8VNV
- > Previous politically-incorrect tag-line removed.
-
- Okay...
-
-
- If your near The Franklin Institute stop by every first no-holiday
- wendsday for...
-
- PhilMont MRC club meeting!
-
- Lets see.
- Nets: Sunday morning 2 m net @ 9:00 on 147.030+
- Sunday 10 on 10 net.
- Sunday 75m net (Ask for the times on the repeater)
-
- Club PBBS: 144.990 @ W3TKQ-5 (Number may be wrong.)
- Club Station: Franklin institute. ph# = 448-1139
- Costs: $8 registartion fee, $20 yearly.
- Offsite Recivers for repeater: 103.5hz Center City
- 114.8hz Landsdale
- Another one in South Hamption (forget PL)
-
- Have fun! 73 es TNX de N3RCS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:23:08 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!icon!greg@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: CW on CB
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- If CW (or MCW) is illegal on the CB bands, why do walkie-talkies come printed
- with The Code on the front, right under the code key button?
-
- I thought they all had to be explicitly licensed (type accepted) by the FCC.
-
- Greg.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jul 94 13:32:18 -0500
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!math.ohio-state.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!noc.near.net!news.tufts.edu!news.hnrc.tufts.edu!jerry@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Did someone say . . . bolus ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- On Monday, I received my ticket, N1SJD. I just finish a delightful contact
- ^^^
- with someone who received his ticket yesterday--N1SNI !
- ^^^
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jul 1994 20:20:09 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!spool.mu.edu!news.clark.edu!netnews.nwnet.net!news.u.washington.edu!cummings@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Did someone say . . . bolus ?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul21.133218.2676@hnrc.tufts.edu>,
- Jerry Dallal <jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu> wrote:
- >On Monday, I received my ticket, N1SJD. I just finish a delightful contact
- >with someone who received his ticket yesterday--N1SNI !
-
- My father and took our novice tests at the same time. We were among the
- first to get licenses under the current callsign allocation system (1978, I
- think). The weird thing was, mine came a week before his (KA7AIJ), and his
- was KA7AHN. I still don't get that.
-
- I remember when we told our Elmer we got our tickets, he told us we must've
- made a mistake, as there was no such thing as a KA7 call. He thought that
- was a DX prefix!
-
- --
- Mike Cummings NX7E cummings@u.washington.edu
- "Like jewels in a crown, the precious stones glittered in the Queen's
- round metal hat." - Jack Handey
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jul 1994 20:56:28 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!lynx.unm.edu!nntp.sunbelt.net!DDEPEW%CHM.TEC.SC.US@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Does CW as a pre-req REALLY Work?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <sVJ8kiubGc7C066yn@access.digex.net>, domonkos@access.digex.net (Andy Domonkos) writes:
- >In article <77370012434n12@131.168.114.12>, Earl=Morse%EMC=Srvc wrote:
- >>
- >> So since it appears that most of the lids are the SSB ops who learned CW
- >> but never used it, then having them retake a cw test to renew their license would
- >> force the lids to have to maintain a knowledge of the code, thus making them
- >> non-lids? :-)
- >>
- >> Earl Morse
- >> KZ8E
- >> kz8e@bangate.compaq.com
- >
- Earl,
-
- I think most of the lids are too lazy and too sloppy to prepare for
- and/or take a CW test for license renewal...these are the slobs who run
- people off frequencies, cuss on the air, and generally sound like a
- bunch of CB'ers on steroids. The really GOOD part about a CW retest is
- that it would get these lids off the air!
-
- CW forever!
-
- 73
-
- Dorr Depew
- N4QIX
- >
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 19:07:00 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!netcom12!faunt@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Elmers, please read (Re: CW)
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I thought the signal was QLF, as in "you seem to be keying with your
- left foot".
- If you learn code by computer program, cassette tape, or
- Morse machine, there's little need to try sending CW. There was a
- keyer in the January 94 QST (I think), that would try to read your
- keying, and report on an LCD screen what it thought you sent, and at
- what speed. Seems like a good hack.
- Still working on getting to 13WPM,
- 73, doug
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Jul 94 14:39:31 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: HELP
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Does anbody out there have a schematic for a Radio Shack
-
- PRO 2006 Scanner????
-
- Copying and postage gladdly paid.
-
- tnx Clark Fishman WA2UNN
- PO BOX 150
- Andover, NJ 07821
-
- cfishman@pica.army.mil
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 23:38:00 GMT
- From: news.crd.ge.com!turbn4.sch.ge.com!vannostrand@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: License in 7 Weeks!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Took Test: June 4,1994
- License Received: July 27, 1994
-
- Scott Van Nostrand
- N2ZYI
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 21:28:26 GMT
- From: world!barnaby@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Nikola Tesla - the true father of Radio
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- jholly@cup.hp.com (Jim Hollenback) writes:
-
- >BeBoB (bobb67@delphi.com) wrote:
- >:
- > [ many great feats deleted. ]
- >:
- >: The first Solar Cell, the first radio controlled robots, the first
- >: X-Rays,
- > ^^^^^^ - no I don't think so. Try Dr. Roentgen. I believe he got a Nobel
- > for his work.
-
- >Jim, WA6SDM
- >jholly@cup.hp.com
-
- Based on my reading Jim, Tesla beat Roentgen, Roentgen got the credit
- --- a common thread in Tesla's life.
-
- ~r sig
- .
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 21:51:59 GMT
- From: ncrgw2.ncr.com!ncrhub2!whq2-top!news@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: No code tech./CB/not shedding a tear
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >In article <30j76uINN1su@dur-news.ctron.com> Frederick G. Slama writes:
- >
- > This would be addressed to those critical of the tech. no-code
- > class and those interested in this thread.
- >
- > It has been my experience that the CB band is a repository
- > for unregulated communication of a indeterminate nature. Listening
- > to it reminds me of a nursery school with no supervision. The
- > profane language and lack of courtesy is sad. Please bear in mind
- > that I realize that CB traffic is regional and may differ, so I
- > suppose I can not make any generalizations.
- >
- > However, because of the tech. no code exam, I have been able to use
- > 2 meter. The "type" of people (ie HAM operators) on HAM bands,
- > exercise a great degree of courtesy and respect (There are
- > exceptions to every rule).
- > Because of the technical skill and interest, I suspect that most
- > of the troublemakers of CB will be content with turning a dial
- > to a simple channel. I am not convinced that HAM radio will ever
- > become as chaotic and "unappealing" as CB.
- >
- > My point is that because of the no-code tech license, I have been
- > afforded the opportunity to get a "taste" of this hobby. I like the
- > taste, and I assure you that I will continue to upgrade my license.
- > I wouldn't be so skeptical of the no-code class.
- >
- >-Fred (N1RVG)>
-
- Amen.
-
-
-
- Greg Smith
- AT&T Global Information Solutions
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 21 Jul 1994 14:55:54 -0400
- From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!convex!news.duke.edu!eff!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!ns.mcs.kent.edu!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!news.pipeline.com!not-for-mail@ames.arpa
- Subject: RADIO BLOOD - EMPLOYMENT
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- QRO Telecom Provider, NY and former Soviet Union searching for
- in-the-blood radio man, primarily for specification of
- customized radio systems. Position would be NY with frequent
- travel to former SU. (Reciprocal license, Icom-781, included!)
-
- Requirements:
-
- * deep background and practical on VHF/UHF, repeaters, antennas
- * hands-on knowledge of equipment, alternatives and vendors
-
- * HF antennas a plus
- * microwave a plus
- * cellular experience a plus
- * PC skills including diagramming and presenting to staff and
- customers
- * good health, passport, tolerance of QRM
-
- Company operates numerous satellite gateways and remote sites;
- C/Ku experience a plus but not necessary.
-
- Energy, initiative and ability to assimilate, organize and
- communicate to multi-national staff and clients essential.
- Radio Blood --- DC to light --- is essential.
-
- Please pass the word. It's a good gig.
-
- N2KS
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 22 Jul 94 16:18:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: ts690 expanded rf?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Looking back at old radio mod files I found one that described an
- expanded rf mod for the Kenwood ts690. It said on the digital board to
- remove d27. On inspection of the digital board in my ts690 the only
- diode was d21. There were empty holes marked d20 through d25 with only
- d21 installed. Removal of d21 did not expand the rf on the radio.
- Does anyone have information on expanded rf for this radio different
- than removal of d27?
- 73 and tnx
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 18:32:26 +0000
- From: pipex!demon!g4udt.demon.co.uk!Yves@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <408@doghouse.win.net>, <30bdkn$p2n@kaiwan.kaiwan.com>, <freyderCt71vF.7n4@netcom.com>
- Reply-To : Yves@g4udt.demon.co.uk
- Subject : Re: FCC Delays now at 17 weeks! PLEASE READ!!!
-
- In article <freyderCt71vF.7n4@netcom.com>
- freyder@netcom.com "Rob Freyder" writes:
-
- > Yup. Just got mine in the mail. Dated 7/13/94 rec'd in mail on 7/18/94
- >
- > Passed Tech no code Test on April 27th.
-
- You're lucky. I administered a session in early March in the UK and the
- candidates are still waiting...
-
- Yves Remedios
- AC4WT - Yes, it's me Bart!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:05:44 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <9407201503.AA06088@metro.mccneb.edu.mccneb.edu>, <30kf8t$mhp@search01.news.aol.com>, <1994Jul21.121809.4048@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
- Subject : Re: CW on CB
-
- In article <1994Jul21.121809.4048@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> migaldi_scott@macmail1.csg.mot.com (Scott F. Migaldi) writes:
- >Just a point, those low power wlakie talkies that have the code osc.
- >transmit on CB chan 14. They however do not transmit cw. They transmit
- >a tone by AMing it to the carrier. If the FCC is allowing that why not
- >teach CW by keying the mike and playing a code practice osc. into it?
-
- Since their input (or output?) is only 100 mW they are covered by
- Part 15 which allows for A2 emission (modulated CW).
-
- Jeff NH6IL
- President of Pi - Organization for sexual majorities. ---
- | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 20:25:27 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <1994Jul21.114237.1@woods.uml.edu>, <CtAtw8.4zu@nntpa.cb.att.com>, <1994Jul21.141128.1@woods.uml.edu>
- Subject : Re: QFS vs. QLF (Was: Elmers, please read)
-
- In article <1994Jul21.141128.1@woods.uml.edu> martinja@woods.uml.edu writes:
- >
- >Anyway, I imagine there is a ship-to-shore signal for QFS, or was one.
-
- Yes, there is one. It is a slowly sent comma: ___ ___ . . ___ ___
-
- This was (informally) mentioned to us in Coast Guard Radioman School.
- And yes, it was used a great deal on 500 kc (international CW calling
- and distress freq). From the hundreds of ships I would hear month after
- month it became easy to pick out a particular ship's op just by
- listening to his fist even before he'd send his ship's callsign.
- The exchange on 500kc would go something like this:
-
- NMO NMO NMO NMO (he's calling me repeatedly without giving his call)
- WNSL DE NMO GE OM UP 440/425 K (I knew his call just from his fist)
- R UP
- EE
- EE
- then he'd pass his traffic on 425 kc and I'd QSL on 440 kc. Note the
- use of the dit dit - and you folks thought *you* invented it!
-
-
- Jeff NH6IL
- President of Pi - Organ nization for sexual majorities. ---
- | |
- ^ oops - that's a typo (honest!)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 07:35:58 GMT
- From: europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.media.mit.edu!steve@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <Ct8n5H.186@irony.com>, <94201.17385232DKUZ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, <30kne0$7j7@news.tv.tek.com>a
- Subject : Re: Is there an ATV newsgroup?
-
- Please also count me in for an ATV newsgroup or mailing list.
-
- On another note (no pun intended) with respect to CW on CB, if it is
- not allowed, why do so many toy walkie talkies have morse code keys.
- Just about any small CB has some kind of CW capability built right in.
- Some even have the morse alphabet on a metal plaque glued to the front
- of the radio.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Fri, 22 Jul 1994 01:19:45 GMT
- From: world!drt@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <940720095211_4@ccm.hf.intel.com>, <30kdlg$r36@news.u.washington.edu>, <pwalker.7.0006814A@mbi.moody.edu>
- Subject : Re: Elmers, please read (Re: CW)
-
- Paul D. Walker II (pwalker@mbi.moody.edu) wrote:
- : In article <30kdlg$r36@news.u.washington.edu> cummings@u.washington.edu (Mike Cummings) writes:
-
- : Why do CW operators send "BT" instead of "." ?
-
- I have no idea. Short and snappy, maybe?
-
- : What is the proper in between transmission protocal?
- : ie:
- : I send: blah ... blah ... blah ... HOW COPY? xx#xx de N9WHG
-
- : and then the other station will pick it up with:
- : N9WHG de xx#xx blah ... blah ... blah
-
- : Should there be an "AR" after my "xx#xx de N9WHG" ?
- __
- Send "K" instead ("KN" if you don't want anyone breaking in). If
- you're conversationally skipping the callsigns, you can send "BK" (for
- "Break") which has a kind of "wake up, it's your turn" flavor to it.
- __
- AR is for calling people you're not in contact with, and for "end of
- message" type things. Why, I don't know, since it's supposed to mean
- "over," which is supposed to mean "my transmission is finished, and
- you're supposed to reply," which is exactly what you want to say
- there. But "K(N)" is preferred. (P.S. "HW?" will often do for "HOW
- COPY?" *if* the other op is experienced enough.)
- __
- Using AR in the situation above is a Very Small Deal, not a big one.
-
- -drt
-
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
- |David R. Tucker KG2S 8P9CL drt@world.std.com|
- ------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 21 Jul 1994 22:23:22 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!news.service.uci.edu!ttinews!avatar!sorgatz@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <9407201503.AA06088@metro.mccneb.edu.mccneb.edu>, <30kf8t$mhp@search01.news.aol.com>, <1994Jul21.121809.4048@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
- Subject : Re: CW on CB
-
- In article <1994Jul21.121809.4048@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> migaldi_scott@macmail1.csg.mot.com (Scott F. Migaldi) writes:
- >Just a point, those low power wlakie talkies that have the code osc.
- >transmit on CB chan 14. They however do not transmit cw. They transmit
- >a tone by AMing it to the carrier. If the FCC is allowing that why not
- >teach CW by keying the mike and playing a code practice osc. into it?
- >
- >--
- >Scott F. Migaldi e-mail:migaldi_scott@macmail1.csg.mot.com
- >The opinions expressed are my own and my cat's. They are not my
- >employer's.
-
-
- The difference is that while cw is fine transmitted by devices that fall
- under Part 15's 100mW rule, the typical CB rig is a product of Part 95 -
- in other words, cw is specifically forbidden under Part 95, but allowed
- for Part 15 devices which *just happen* to be colocated frequency-wise.
-
- 73!
-
- -Avatar-> (aka: Erik K. Sorgatz) KB6LUY +----------------------------+
- TTI(es@soldev.tti.com)or: sorgatz@avatar.tti.com *Government produces NOTHING!*
- 3100 Ocean Park Blvd. Santa Monica, CA 90405 +----------------------------+
- (OPINIONS EXPRESSED DO NOT REFLECT THE VIEWS OF CITICORP OR ITS MANAGEMENT!)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- End of Info-Hams Digest V94 #826
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